R'uh, r'oh!

Sep. 6th, 2003 03:45 pm
foxmonkey: Robot Snowman with Flowers (Default)
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First, [livejournal.com profile] scot_tyjust posted some good news straight from Mama Chasez's lips. Woohoo!

In other news, I wouldn't want to be in FictionLyn's shoes. From here. Someone questioned the legality of the infamous "FictionLyn-approved!" CD O' Fic on sale at eBay. Someone else suggested contacting Gerri, from the NSync fanclub.

Gerri was emailed. Gerri has contacted NSync's lawyers about the CD O' Fic and Copyright Violations (name, images and such).

Say it with me kids: How stupid can you get?

Date: 2003-09-06 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemniskate.livejournal.com
while I really don't agree with what Fiction Lyn did, I don't think alerting NSync's lawyers to it is really a good thing, since it's got to bring their attention to a *lot* of fannish activity on the net; and most of it isn't legal according to their standards. Oy.

Date: 2003-09-06 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxmonkey.livejournal.com
while I really don't agree with what Fiction Lyn did, I don't think alerting NSync's lawyers to it is really a good thing, since it's got to bring their attention to a *lot* of fannish activity on the net; and most of it isn't legal according to their standards. Oy.

I know...pics altered for graphics, names taken in vain... ;-) It's too bad that someone who's supposed to be edumacated was so completely lacking in common sense. eBay, of all places.

If it hadn't been this person, someone else was bound to tip them off, especially since she was planning to pop more of these things out. It was just a matter of time, unfortunately.

Date: 2003-09-06 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterchick.livejournal.com
I really hope this doesn't lead to a fiction crackdown.

Date: 2003-09-06 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemniskate.livejournal.com
the one thing that helps is that it's mostly on individual pages. when I first joined the fandom I was like, we NEED a central archive. But without one, it makes stuff harder to find. Stuff is just gonna get locked down more on livejournal, people will set their web pages so they don't get picked up by search engine bots, etc.

Date: 2003-09-06 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxmonkey.livejournal.com
people will set their web pages so they don't get picked up by search engine bots, etc.

Mini-crash course, please? I'd like to be proactive on eluding search bots, but I don't know how. Is it simple?

Ahhh, from Google, the future father of my children:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum13/687.htm

I insert this code on every page of my site? Welcome to "Bot Blocking for Dummies!" and thanks if you can help. :-)

Date: 2003-09-06 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemniskate.livejournal.com
you know, I am the idiot monkey when it comes to html. I don't even have a site of my own. I have a domain and I'm slowly learning myself. I looked at the source code of a friends page, and this is what I found, and copied directly. I inserted "#
[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<meta [...] (with>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

you know, I am the idiot monkey when it comes to html. I don't even have a site of my own. I have a domain and I'm slowly learning myself. I looked at the source code of a friends page, and this is what I found, and copied directly. I inserted "#<meta name="robots" content="noindex"#" (with < and > for the #'s, of course) right after the html head title line of the index page I'm slowly figuring out how to do. I'm hoping it works ;)

Date: 2003-09-06 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxmonkey.livejournal.com
I inserted "*meta name="robots" content="noindex"*" (with < and > for the *'s, of course) right after the html head title line of the index page I'm slowly figuring out how to do. I'm hoping it works ;)

Aha! I just saw that on one of the pages I - ironically enough -just Googled. This link is for the highlighted cached version (love that search term highlighting).

Cool! :-)

Date: 2003-09-06 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demrepic.livejournal.com
I have discussed this with my legal freak friends before and rps fan fic is probably amoung the safest of fan activities. As long as you say it isn't real somewhere, it would hard to even sue anyone for libel. Photo manips and vids are much more vunerable to some type of prosecution. Along with downloadable music and media files.

Also we pretty much know that people involved in most of our fandoms know about fan fic, and they don't care (unless they are George Lucas). What is different here is at the girl was trying to make money off of it. They are not going to like that at all.

Date: 2003-09-06 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxmonkey.livejournal.com
What is different here is at the girl was trying to make money off of it. They are not going to like that at all.

Exactly. Fen with brains bend over backwards to make sure the Powers That Be know we *aren't* in this for profit, just fun. And then this. Ai carumba.

Date: 2003-09-06 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturn92103.livejournal.com
That's exactly what I was thinking. There's a pretty good reason that everyone and their mother notes "no profit made," or something along those lines, on their fic pages.

Date: 2003-09-06 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemniskate.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm not worried about the legal aspect, really, just mostly my comfort level if it comes out that they know about it and aren't happy about it, etc. which is a silly thing, I imagine they'd ignore it completely, as long as it's not costing them money, but I don't want like, picture sites or places like nsyncland to get into trouble (or disappear ;))

Date: 2003-09-06 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xphile101.livejournal.com
Seriously, why didn't they just contact eBay and tell them that someone is trying to profit off of materials they shouldn't be selling? Then all of fanfiction wouldn't be theoretically in danger.

Date: 2003-09-06 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tallories.livejournal.com
Still, I can't help but think that the only thing *NSYNC's lawyers would really be concerned about is someone making money off their copyrights. Most fan activity, while colorful and perhaps a bit too vivacious at times, doesn't infringe upon that. Of course, there's a whole arsenal of defamation crap they could enter into, but I honestly think if they were going to do that, they probably already would. The escapades of FictionLyn is small change, and I doubt they'll do much beyond nipping that problem off. To spearhead a charge determined to "clean up the fandom" is asking for trouble.

Date: 2003-09-06 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diggybear.livejournal.com
If she was smart and wanted to make money off of this, she could've done it on her board where people would've contacted her directly. But of course, that wouldn't afford her a way to get a hire price with the bidding aspect. Definitely contacting e-bay would've been good, they would've removed the listing.

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